Hope
Comes from reaching out
Last night I did some phone banking for the Harris Walz campaign. I don’t particularly like talking on the phone, so it’s kind of a terrible way for me to volunteer. But they say it can motivate 3% more people to vote, and that matters in a close election.
When I phoned people last week, they were from a list of Pennsylvania Democrats and I had nice conversations with mostly older people, making sure they had a plan to vote.
Last night we were calling Georgia Undecideds. Undecided people in Georgia are sick of getting calls; the first ten or so just hung up on me.
** Hot tip to those people: Just ask to be taken off the list. We can do that. **
Georgia was not working out so they sent a link to a new list of numbers for Arizona. That’s when I called Hope.
-Hi Hope! I’m calling from the Harris campaign about the upcoming election. Are you planning on voting?
-No, not really.
-Oh no? Why?
-Well, it may have been a coincidence, but every time I register to vote, I get called for jury duty. I just moved and I don’t want them to have my new address.
-Huh. Well, if you did vote, who would you vote for?
-Kamala… (Is that how you say it?) Kamala Harris.
-Why would you vote for Kamala?
-Because she seems like she listens to people. It would be nice to have someone in charge who listens.
And that’s when I settled in to listen to Hope. We talked for almost an hour. I have felt disconnected to “the American people” that I read about in the news who are outside of my social circles and I really enjoyed talking to her about a range of topics. Things like:
Women do listen more; that may be why patients with female doctors tend to live longer.
Hope’s vote is “worth” more than mine because of how the electoral college works. She was surprised to hear that I hardly see any political ads. (Just requests for money.)
When she got to Arizona 4-5 years ago, it was solidly a red state, and there weren’t very many Asian people. Both of those things are starting to change.
We’re both Chinese-American! We talked about the Chinese Exclusion Act (she was excited I knew that history) and about people we know who died their hair blonde so they wouldn’t be targeted by anti-Asian haters. A lot of that came from COVID paranoia, but the president in 2020 did nothing to dissuade that violence.
She had issues for a while trying to figure out how to be “Asian enough” among some friends and “not too Asian” among others. My daughter—just a few years younger than Hope—and I have had conversations on this topic. I told Hope that I was proud of her for finding the right balance for herself. She told me she was impressed that my daughter and I could have such personal discussions—not something that comes naturally in Chinese culture. I think we both got a little choked up.
She’s a great cook! She learned because she developed lots of food sensitivities and had to cook everything herself, and learn how to do it inexpensively. She eventually became a personal chef, but left that job recently. We talked about what regional Chinese food was best, and I had to admit that I do love a Cantonese restaurant. Hope’s family is from Guangzhou so she considered this a minor victory.
Her friend just had a baby! I mentioned that I knew someone who had had a miscarriage and I was afraid that many women could no longer get proper treatment in that situation.
When I brought up the issue of women’s health, I could hear her light up. “Wait a minute… I had a job a few months ago trying to get that on the ballot. I was in 115 degree heat trying to get people to sign a petition but then I fainted and blacked out. I had to quit that job but I kind of remember it now.”
I looked online and found that abortion rights are on the ballot in Arizona. Sorry, I told her, you HAVE to vote now. It’s too important not to.
You’re right, she said. I’m going to vote.
We continued to talk, and I texted her a link from my personal number to a page to find out where she can vote. And then we got disconnected.
When I read in the news about undecided or hesitant voters in swing states, I get frustrated, to say the least. But talking to a real person who has her own issues and challenges made me sympathetic. After those hang up calls from Georgia, I almost quit my phone banking efforts, but then talking to Hope gave me… hope.
I’m going to do it again.
If you’re interested in volunteering for a Harris Walz phone bank, you can get started at this link: https://go.kamalaharris.com/calls/



Okay, now I’m choked up. Loved this, Jack. Thank you for sharing. (And thank you for calling.)
Amazing! I've been phone banking too...and I love this story. Can I post it on social media?